[eric.ladror]

Have you noticed how unrealistic the range estimate in Lucids? It appears that Lucid is using the EPA rated consumption of 4.7 miles/kWh (in my car after charging to 80%, the car shows range of 344 miles. 344/(92x0.8)=4.67.) I am in the Chicago area, so now in winter I get about 2.7 m/kWh, according to my measurements in "Trip A or B" and estimate since last charge. What Lucid should do is keep a running average of consumption over the last 50 miles and use this number to multiply by kWh for range estimate. I believe that this is what GM does because range estimate in GM cars has been remarkably accurate.

 

[VoitureElectrique]

Count on an overestimated range... Chicago gets cold and windy, both negative for the car's range. Thus, you can't count on the range to be accurate. You're definitely right about the running tally - Tesla does this - but Tesla's battery range number itself is tied to the battery's percentage. Thus, on a Tesla, your range at 100% battery is hypothetically 300 miles - but after driving 150 miles highway miles at 70-75mph later, your range will probably be around 100 miles remaining or 33% remaining because the car is assuming good weather, a light load, a mix of 55% more efficient city and 45% less efficient highway driving at a relatively low average speed limit.

 

[michaelcochran718]

We live in Cali. Warm all year. I see about 3.0 vs 4+. Quoted Range on the GT seems impossible. I’ve tried but I usually get about 67% of what Lucid claims for range.

 

[Monkeysee]

I live in southern California. Driving on highway is a daily routine. If I drive my touring like a typical driver in this environment, I will get 70% of the range Lucid claims. I can get very close to the range Lucid claims if I keep my speed under 70 MPH, avoid uphill slope, and accelerate cautiously. However, if I maintain my battery between 20-80% as suggested, 160-170 miles will be my real range for typical driving.

 

[jhaig61]

I also live in So Cal. I have a little over 1000 miles on my Air Touring and have averaged 3.0m/kWh since day one. I've also noticed the battery decays more than I would expect when parked in garage. I parked last night with 80% remaining and app said I have 78% next morning. Anyone else notice that?

 

[eric.ladror]

I also live in So Cal. I have a little over 1000 miles on my Air Touring and have averaged 3.0m/kWh since day one. I've also noticed the battery decays more than I would expect when parked in garage. I parked last night with 80% remaining and app said I have 78% next morning. Anyone else notice that?

I have not noticed loss of charge when parked but I have not paid attention to that. I will in the near future.
But my post was not concerned with consumption in m/kWh, my post was concerned with the range calculation which make the reported range a useless number. They should use YOUR recent consumption to calculate range and NOT the EPA value (that appears to be unrealistic even under optimal conditions) .

 

[Ashoka8350]

I also live in So Cal. I have a little over 1000 miles on my Air Touring and have averaged 3.0m/kWh since day one. I've also noticed the battery decays more than I would expect when parked in garage. I parked last night with 80% remaining and app said I have 78% next morning. Anyone else notice that?

Computer reading may be lagging behind, I am not sure. After parking in the garage, wait for 5-10 mins to read the milage. It could be different from what you read before about 10 min ago. That may give your answer.

Usually it should not lose more than 3-4 miles per day. If it is actually more than that, you may have to contact Lucid Service.

I have Dream Edition since October 30, 21 and I have not noticed a great loss.

 

[dbasu44]

I live in Northern California. I drive mostly on flat surface and 60-70MPH. I also get about 3M/KWH with 21in wheels. That is a lot lower than Lucid range spec of 4.2 for 21".
If you keep your keyfob far enough away from the car when it is parked, the phantom battery loss will go down. But there is still some loss - don't know why.

 

[Ashoka8350]

I live in Northern California. I drive mostly on flat surface and 60-70MPH. I also get about 3M/KWH with 21in wheels. That is a lot lower than Lucid range spec of 4.2 for 21".
If you keep your keyfob far enough away from the car when it is parked, the phantom battery loss will go down. But there is still some loss - don't know why.

EPA range and actual driving range is altogether different.

Actual driving on long distance I get anywhere 75-85% of EPA range on normal conditions driving about 70-75m/h.

It could be worse depending con the conditions of road, weather like wind, rain snow, temperature and one's driving habits beside using heat ot air-conditions, playing music etc.

 

[Ebirl]

I also live in So Cal. I have a little over 1000 miles on my Air Touring and have averaged 3.0m/kWh since day one. I've also noticed the battery decays more than I would expect when parked in garage. I parked last night with 80% remaining and app said I have 78% next morning. Anyone else notice that?

I have noticed that as well when my car was parked in the garage. Until my husband told me my car was turning on and off. It was due to the mobile key. Anytime I was near the garage the car would cut on and off. Also, I was told the car would turn on automatically if it's really cold or hot.

 

[dbasu44]

EPA range and actual driving range is altogether different.

Actual driving on long distance I get anywhere 75-85% of EPA range on normal conditions driving about 70-75m/h.

It could be worse depending con the conditions of road, weather like wind, rain snow, temperature and one's driving habits beside using heat ot air-conditions, playing music etc.

I also drive a Tesla Model 3. It came with 310 miles range spec. It has dipped a bit now after 4 years, but it gave close to the 310M spec when I purchased it.

 

[Ashoka8350]

I also drive a Tesla Model 3. It came with 310 miles range spec. It has dipped a bit now after 4 years, but it gave close to the 310M spec when I purchased it.

I also have a Model S long range with 357 mile range.

With the last update the milage upped to 375! (EPA range)

Surprise, surprise!

 

[eric.ladror]

The point of my post that started the thread was NOT about mileage. Yes, it's pretty bad that Lucid advertises unrealistic mileage, and yes, they should correct it. My post, however was the stupidity of using EPA mileage instead of actual mileage. This can be fixes easily in the next OTA update.

 

[Ashoka8350]

The point of my post that started the thread was NOT about mileage. Yes, it's pretty bad that Lucid advertises unrealistic mileage, and yes, they should correct it. My post, however was the stupidity of using EPA mileage instead of actual mileage. This can be fixes easily in the next OTA update.

I don't understand your point of view.

All EV's are obligated to announce EPA milage, which includes Tesla, Rivian, Chevy, Ford etc.

Actual milage depends on all other circumstance as explained before.

No meaning in getting upset my friend. It is not Lucid, it is Fed government.

 

[dbasu44]

If Tesla's EPA mileage and real life mileage are pretty close, why isn't it the same for Lucid ?

 

[Ashoka8350]

If Tesla's EPA mileage and real life mileage are pretty close, why isn't it the same for Lucid ?

I have Model S with EPA 357 and Dream Edition with EPA 475, but I fail too much difference.

You are lucky if you are getting better milage in your Tesla

 

[Paul j Filidei]

If Tesla's EPA mileage and real life mileage are pretty close, why isn't it the same for Lucid ?

Tesla mileage is way lower also depends how you drive on any EV, Lucid range still better than most everyone.

 

[Paul j Filidei]

Have you noticed how unrealistic the range estimate in Lucids? It appears that Lucid is using the EPA rated consumption of 4.7 miles/kWh (in my car after charging to 80%, the car shows range of 344 miles. 344/(92x0.8)=4.67.) I am in the Chicago area, so now in winter I get about 2.7 m/kWh, according to my measurements in "Trip A or B" and estimate since last charge. What Lucid should do is keep a running average of consumption over the last 50 miles and use this number to multiply by kWh for range estimate. I believe that this is what GM does because range estimate in GM cars has been remarkably accurate.

All EV,s Depend on your driving habits for Range..And the mode settings on Lucid, Tesla and others...All depends on your EV,s settings and how heavy your foot is..Lucid still beats the range of Most all EV,s.

 

[dbasu44]

Tesla mileage is way lower also depends how you drive on any EV, Lucid range still better than most everyone.

My Tesla Model 3 is 4.5 years old. Its' real life range has dropped by ~10%. But at the beginning, it gave pretty close to the spec of 310 miles. Lucid is giving 2/3rd of the spec.

I don't have experience of recent offerings of Tesla. Maybe they have become way too aggressive with their claims too.

 

[eric.ladror]

I don't understand your point of view.

All EV's are obligated to announce EPA milage, which includes Tesla, Rivian, Chevy, Ford etc.

Actual milage depends on all other circumstance as explained before.

No meaning in getting upset my friend. It is not Lucid, it is Fed government.

I wasn't aware that regulations require to estimate rage be EPA mileage. I had a Chevy Volt before so if this is indeed by law, it appears not to apply to the Volt (which is a plug in hybrid).
I that case Lucid should calculate both EPA and realistic range. After all the EPA range is a useless number.