[joseph.g]

The Torrance dealer tells me I should see an improvement when I'm at 2000 miles odometer. I don't see the logic in this! I'm currently at 780 miles on Smooth, driving like an old lady and the best I get is 3 miles / Kwh

Has anyone experienced this and if so what was the solution. Appreciate any feedback.

Thank you
Joseph

 

[Air Head]

Hey @joseph.g welcome to the forum! There shouldn't be a break in period for the motors or anything like that but maybe they're referring to breaking in the tires to help with the efficiency?

 

[EKu]

My car is just over 2k miles, and best case I get around 3.7 with extensive hwy driving. Mixed use its really in the high 2s low 3s.

 

[joseph.g]

Thanks for the feedback. 3.7 is far short of 4.3! I got 3.3 today on the freeway going for about 29miles at 68Mph. I love the car but I'm disappointed that one cannot even achieve the EPA rating

 

[ZimZim1]

Same problem here. I'm getting way less efficiency than expected. Highest I've seen is 3.4 miles per kWh. Getting about 65% of the started range, at best. Only 700 miles so far but I'm skeptical of the break in comments. I charged to 400 miles on the highway, drove 150 and had 170 left. My old 2013 Tesla seemed more efficient.

 

[joseph.g]

Hopefully, they will find a solution soon or they are going to find themself in a lawsuit, which will not be kind to their stock value or reputation!

 

[ZimZim1]

Hopefully, they will find a solution soon or they are going to find themself in a lawsuit, which will not be kind to their stock value or reputation!

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Definitely class action potential if not resolved.

 

[njg-agt]

One has to wonder how so many car reviewers got the claimed range in their tests... what is different between those tests and these real world numbers?

 

[joseph.g]

I think the Air Dream ranges are accurate. It's the Grand Touring currently being released that seems to be the problem. This evening I did a simple test, coming back home was an exact 33 miles distance. I showed 203 miles range on the battery. All on the freeway in California with 68-degree weather. I power off the AC and Media. When I arrived home the range showed 158. It should have been 170. The loss if math is accurate is 40%. I got a loss of 12 miles doing 33 miles distance. I was driving at 70mph GrandPa stye. It's not acceptable in my opinion.

 

[Slam08]

I remember reading that Tesla used the EPA’s adjustment factor to its advantage and gets big numbers on the tests that people in real life can’t get. Perhaps Lucid also did the same.

I remember a thread somewhere most people are getting 70-80% of the stated range.

 

[joseph.g]

Thanks, Slam. right now I'm getting 60% of range driving conservatively. My EPA is 469 @ 60% which is 281miles! I have a Hyundai Kona electric 2021. I paid $29,000 and it can do REAL 249miles per charge. I was thinking of selling it but now I think I will return the Air. I did not buy the car because it was sexy, I bought it because of its range. I would accept 80% of EPA but not 60%

 

[Ev-MasterTech]

The Torrance dealer tells me I should see an improvement when I'm at 2000 miles odometer. I don't see the logic in this! I'm currently at 780 miles on Smooth, driving like an old lady and the best I get is 3 miles / Kwh

Has anyone experienced this and if so what was the solution. Appreciate any feedback.

Thank you
Joseph

I dont think 2000 miles that will help you To get better range. That what the vehicle will get, I think you need turn off AC. Head light, something you can thing off. good luck

 

[steveinarizona]

The Torrance dealer tells me I should see an improvement when I'm at 2000 miles odometer. I don't see the logic in this! I'm currently at 780 miles on Smooth, driving like an old lady and the best I get is 3 miles / Kwh

Has anyone experienced this and if so what was the solution. Appreciate any feedback.

Thank you
Joseph

Some little old ladies drive very aggressively. What was the temperature and what do you mean by driving like an old lady and what regen setting were you using?

 

[Slam08]

Lol. For instance. I think The epa uses a 18 second 0-60 when accersting on their tests. I doubt any of us do an 18 second 0-60 when we could do it in 3

 

[joseph.g]

April 24 | Major Update |

After putting 1600 miles, I continue my way home test from work. I did this time; managed to achieve the EPA rating of 4.3mile / KwH. I will post below the picture of how I did it. I'm glad I reach the EPA. I can rest now and enjoy! That said, in a normal driving condition there is no way I would come even close.

I know the picture says swift mode but I changed this on my last few miles. The entire 23.2 miles was mixed road and freeway on smooth with regeneration using both standard and aggressive. On the Freeway, I use standard, and on the city aggressive. I pretty much never use the brake pedal.

1) No sudden acceleration EVER just accelerate gradually
2) Speed at max 70MpH
3) Avoid using the Brakes, if at all possible
4) Avoid steep hill climbing "Of Course" That said my trip was not a flat road at all. They were ups and downs

In the end, there is no way I would ever drive that car this way. After charging and resetting to zero, unlike other electric car I experienced the efficiency rating build slowly. 1.4, 1.6, 1.5, 2.1 ... It took a solid 18miles to be above the 3.8miles/KwH

I apologize to Lucid for doubting the range. I'm glad I was able to reach it. Can I return for the new GT performance model? Yeah right !!!

Thank you for the replies

 

[Slam08]

Congrats! Great to see it can be done! I find real world tests like Edmunds a better guide. Than the . But even here the air is the top dog.

Edmunds Tested: Electric Car Range and Consumption | Edmunds

Which EVs have the best electric car range? The EPA provides range estimates for every electric vehicle, but they don't test EV range in the real world -- and Edmunds does. Read all the latest real-world EV test results from the Edmunds experts.

www.edmunds.com

I wonder how many miles the air went on zero in the their tests

 

[steveinarizona]

April 24 | Major Update |

After putting 1600 miles, I continue my way home test from work. I did this time; managed to achieve the EPA rating of 4.3mile / KwH. I will post below the picture of how I did it. I'm glad I reach the EPA. I can rest now and enjoy! That said, in a normal driving condition there is no way I would come even close.

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I know the picture says swift mode but I changed this on my last few miles. The entire 23.2 miles was mixed road and freeway on smooth with regeneration using both standard and aggressive. On the Freeway, I use standard, and on the city aggressive. I pretty much never use the brake pedal.

1) No sudden acceleration EVER just accelerate gradually
2) Speed at max 70MpH
3) Avoid using the Brakes, if at all possible
4) Avoid steep hill climbing "Of Course" That said my trip was not a flat road at all. They were ups and downs

In the end, there is no way I would ever drive that car this way. After charging and resetting to zero, unlike other electric car I experienced the efficiency rating build slowly. 1.4, 1.6, 1.5, 2.1 ... It took a solid 18miles to be above the 3.8miles/KwH

I apologize to Lucid for doubting the range. I'm glad I was able to reach it. Can I return for the new GT performance model? Yeah right !!!

Thank you for the replies

Thanks. I can't imagine why anyone would buy a car with that much HP and then drive it like a Buick. There are many very fine BEVs that can do that well. So I never imagined that I would get the EPA range.

I have reserved a Pure although I might upgrade to a Touring. Either way it depends upon Lucid working out its gremlins by then. I have figured that most times I need to only charge to 80% and then take another 25% off that to account for driving with the AC on (always for me) and enjoying driving. So on a Pure, that would take the range down to 320 miles (80%) and then down to 240 (the additional 25%). I can live with that if my best guess estimates work.

 

[sandvinsd]

If you are wanting the HP and using it, then don’t expect the range.

 

[Ev-MasterTech]

Thanks. I can't imagine why anyone would buy a car with that much HP and then drive it like a Buick. There are many very fine BEVs that can do that well. So I never imagined that I would get the EPA range.

I have reserved a Pure although I might upgrade to a Touring. Either way it depends upon Lucid working out its gremlins by then. I have figured that most times I need to only charge to 80% and then take another 25% off that to account for driving with the AC on (always for me) and enjoying driving. So on a Pure, that would take the range down to 320 miles (80%) and then down to 240 (the additional 25%). I can live with that if my best guess estimates work.

Yeah I agree

 

[rich5354]

I took delivery of my GT with 21" wheels in July, and now have about 2,750 miles on the car. Generally, I love the Lucid. I have had three TESLA Model S' previously, and have always been disappointed in not being able to achieve "rated range" on the cars. I was excited about the LUCID, as many video reviews indicated that the Lucid would achieve the "rated range" cruising at a steady 70 mph. Well, I just returned from a 1,500 road trip where I tried to achieve something over 4 mi/kwh. I drove from San Diego, CA to Auburn, CA and return. I used Smooth drive mode. I set the Adaptive Cruise Control to 71 mph (got angry looks from many drivers), and did one pedal driving most of the way. Ambient temp was between 75 and 85 degrees. I charged to 100% at each stop. The trip average was 3.2 mi/kwh. I saw over 4 mi/kwh rolling downhill on the grapevine, and that was the only time it was over 4 mi/kwh. So, I had on the order of 26% range loss to stated range to the EPA range. I spoke many times to the Costa Mesa service center on the trip, and they claim this is not "normal" and have opened a trouble ticket on the problem. I had read