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250 miles in and some more unfortunate discoveries....

(Understanding this is a brand new car and they will get all the kinks out over time - just like Tesla did)

Car will only update over cell - you cant update over wifi - in fact its buried you need to turn off wifi in order to update car. Update takes 15M (1.0.6) and I have no good cell service where I live - you cant update as you drive and you cant open or close doors while update is in progress - so yo have to go find a place to park and update, - just seems crazy you cant update over wifi in your garage.

I parked in a parking garage and left my key in car by mistake. Almost all cars won't lock and will beep horn to notify you left key in car these days - Lucid locked the door and because I was in parking garage lower level I the app would not connect to car without cell service so I had to leave car and get my backup key and come back -

the key is too confusing for valet - nobody knows how to use it or push 2x to open so they try and push on door handles which gets them stuck.

I got 250 miles on my first full charge - not even close to the 500 advertised.

Overall really like the car but some early issues that need to get resolved
 

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250 miles in and some more unfortunate discoveries....

(Understanding this is a brand new car and they will get all the kinks out over time - just like Tesla did)

Car will only update over cell - you cant update over wifi - in fact its buried you need to turn off wifi in order to update car. Update takes 15M (1.0.6) and I have no good cell service where I live - you cant update as you drive and you cant open or close doors while update is in progress - so yo have to go find a place to park and update, - just seems crazy you cant update over wifi in your garage.

I parked in a parking garage and left my key in car by mistake. Almost all cars won't lock and will beep horn to notify you left key in car these days - Lucid locked the door and because I was in parking garage lower level I the app would not connect to car without cell service so I had to leave car and get my backup key and come back -

the key is too confusing for valet - nobody knows how to use it or push 2x to open so they try and push on door handles which gets them stuck.

I got 250 miles on my first full charge - not even close to the 500 advertised.

Overall really like the car but some early issues that need to get resolved
I am especially concerned about your range comment. What was the temperature when you were driving, and how were you driving (i.e., testing out 0-60 drag times on one hand or hypermiling on the other)?
 

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I am especially concerned about your range comment. What was the temperature when you were driving, and how were you driving (i.e., testing out 0-60 drag times on one hand or hypermiling on the other)?
The range being reported from people seems to be all over the place. Given we're in winter there is going to be less range but 250 is extremely low. My e-Tron is 190 to 205 is summer but can go as low as 160 in the winter. Similar to the Audi, the Lucid is a VERY heavy car so it's not going to perform well in stop\start city driving but still, 250 seems very low if driving normally.
 

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With as new and fun as the Lucid Air is I would have to imagine I'm going to be "showing off" it's power and ability to friends and family for a number of weeks and enjoying it without regard to the range.

For me, the real range test will be in the summer when I do a 1000 road trip, planning recharge spots, and, hopefully by then, enjoying some highway Dream Drive features for consistency.

Even with that I'm not naively thinking I'll be closer to 520. If I get 400 regularly on summer highway cruising I'll be pretty happy.
 

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With as new and fun as the Lucid Air is I would have to imagine I'm going to be "showing off" it's power and ability to friends and family for a number of weeks and enjoying it without regard to the range.

For me, the real range test will be in the summer when I do a 1000 road trip, planning recharge spots, and, hopefully by then, enjoying some highway Dream Drive features for consistency.

Even with that I'm not naively thinking I'll be closer to 520. If I get 400 regularly on summer highway cruising I'll be pretty happy.
I agree. I ordered the AGT and if I can 350 to 400 of highway cruising then I'll be happy.
 

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I love in S Cal - normal day to day driving -
I just charged it up so lets see how far I go on second charge
 

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There's no way 250 from a full charge. I have almost 2300 miles and even doing launches and driving in Sprint mode I get more than 250. What exactly are you doing? Lol

Also, with the key fob, pushing on the door handles (when the car is locked) will unlock it. Pushing the door handle in (when the car is unlocked) will lock the car. I found it pretty easy to figure that out, took all of about 10 seconds.
 

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There's no way 250 from a full charge. I have almost 2300 miles and even doing launches and driving in Sprint mode I get more than 250. What exactly are you doing? Lol

Also, with the key fob, pushing on the door handles (when the car is locked) will unlock it. Pushing the door handle in (when the car is unlocked) will lock the car. I found it pretty easy to figure that out, took all of about 10 seconds.
Where are you located (weather)? And what are you getting? I like to drive quickly but range is important to me because I only have a 20 amp dedicated circuit in my garage for a charger. So I want a big enough range that I can top off in my garage and hit electrify america if I am going on an extended trip.
 

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Socal just like that poster. I just did a trip from LA to AZ and back and managed to get 350 miles averaging around 82.

If people know the area, I started my drive in Pasadena and made it to Buckeye in 1 charge on my way out, no hypermiling or anything.
 

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Car will only update over cell - you cant update over wifi
On the other Lucid forum, @Hydbob has updated using wi-fi because he never read the directions to turn wi-fi off. @hmp10 has the same issue as you - no cell signal and the service techs told him to use wi-fi. Here's what he posted: "I know Lucid recommends turning off WiFi to receive OTA updates, but I discussed this both with the delivery person and the mobile techs. They said Lucid recommended doing that to keep the car from randomly switching between signals during an update but, since we have no usable LTE signal in the garage, just keep the WiFi on."
 

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Im in S Cal. Normal daily driving.

I charged car again (fully) and down to 88% with 20 miles driven. Not trending well for normal city driving ... Well see.....
 

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Im in S Cal. Normal daily driving.

I charged car again (fully) and down to 88% with 20 miles driven. Not trending well for normal city driving ... Well see.....
This completely blows my mind. I would call customer care to see because that's not right at all. What does your mi/kwh show up as?
 

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250 miles in and some more unfortunate discoveries....

(Understanding this is a brand new car and they will get all the kinks out over time - just like Tesla did)

Car will only update over cell - you cant update over wifi - in fact its buried you need to turn off wifi in order to update car. Update takes 15M (1.0.6) and I have no good cell service where I live - you cant update as you drive and you cant open or close doors while update is in progress - so yo have to go find a place to park and update, - just seems crazy you cant update over wifi in your garage.

I parked in a parking garage and left my key in car by mistake. Almost all cars won't lock and will beep horn to notify you left key in car these days - Lucid locked the door and because I was in parking garage lower level I the app would not connect to car without cell service so I had to leave car and get my backup key and come back -

the key is too confusing for valet - nobody knows how to use it or push 2x to open so they try and push on door handles which gets them stuck.

I got 250 miles on my first full charge - not even close to the 500 advertised.

Overall really like the car but some early issues that need to get resolved
As I posted in December, I find that if I take 70% of stated remaining range, that's about right. So, 520 = 364. That seems to be in line with what other owners are experiencing.
 

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For me, when I saw the EPA I instantly thought 520, knock 15% off and you'll get around 440 of real world range at 100% so at 80% I would potentially be seeing around 350. Factoring in its winter let's just knock another 15% off and it should come in around 300 still of real world driving. So to be getting 250 either something is wrong or ease up on flooring it at each traffic light :p
 

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There's no way 250 from a full charge. I have almost 2300 miles and even doing launches and driving in Sprint mode I get more than 250. What exactly are you doing? Lol

Also, with the key fob, pushing on the door handles (when the car is locked) will unlock it. Pushing the door handle in (when the car is unlocked) will lock the car. I found it pretty easy to figure that out, took all of about 10 seconds.
So you don’t get over 500. Lies of range as advertised?
 

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Lucid is NOT Tesla.

To even close.
What I meant by that statement was, Lucid advertises using the same source that Tesla does. That source is the EPA Range calculated and issued by the EPA not the car manufacturer. Lucid won't likely match those estimates in real world driving and neither does Tesla.

But neither car company is "lying" because they are not making a claim about the range they are merely reporting the number calculated and provided to them by the EPA. And it is the highest range for an EV that the EPA has issued.
 

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It's the same as Tesla. They don't claim a range of 520 they state the fact that the EPA estimate is 520. Fault the EPA and their methodology if you want to place blame.
I agree, have an issue with it then take it up with the EPA. Tesla and Lucid took the 2 cycle test vs the others doing the 5 cycle in order to make the numbers look better. It’s why you see the other beating EPA where Tesla and Lucid are always going to come under.

shady? Yes, but they’re not breaking any laws. EPA allows it
 

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I don't think there is anything shady about the issue. I just want to know the real range for a driver who likes to drive fast and is driving a combination of highway and urban roads. Then I can make an informed decision about whether a particular car is for me or is not.
 
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