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Lucid has started installing their own EV chargers! This is what they look like. I'm not sure where this photo was taken but they look fantastic.

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I'm hoping to get a Lucid charger for my home, but I'm still waiting for them to release specs, cost, and installation options. As the Lucid Air supports bi-directional charging, I'm definitely interested in getting a charger that works with that. Lucid Motors just says info on the charger is coming "soon."
 
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According to specs sent to EPA. Car is rated at 80a and 19.2kW. I'll probably have a 100a circuit ran.
 
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LRSIII said:
I'm hoping to get a Lucid charger for my home, but I'm still waiting for them to release specs, cost, and installation options. As the Lucid Air supports bi-directional charging, I'm definitely interested in getting a charger that works with that. Lucid Motors just says info on the charger is coming "soon."
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I received this .pdf from Lucid yesterday in advance of my vehicle delivery in the next "2-4 months". The representative said the charger will be available by then.

Home Charging Station Explainer:

The Lucid Connected Home Charging Station (LCHCS) is a wall-mounted charging station that offers you much faster charging and a convenient home charging setup. Connected Home Charging Station specs • Elegant design and compact build - 5.12 in x 7.68 in x 15.35 in - 18 lb - 24 ft cable • Up to 80 miles of range per hour of charge - 2x the charge rate of the mobile charging cord - Up to 19.2kW (240VAC @ 80A) in North America • Controlled from the Lucid app - Schedule charges ahead of time - Set charge limits • Built for indoor and outdoor use - Holds up in rain, sleet, and snow - Undamaged by external ice • Hardware-ready for bi-directional charging - Vehicle and charging station software will enable this when available • Widescale compatibility with any EV - Utilizes the J1772 charging standard like most other automakers Any questions? Please reach out directly to your Sales or Delivery Advisor. You can always contact Lucid support
 
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CJAbood said:
I received this .pdf from Lucid yesterday in advance of my vehicle delivery in the next "2-4 months". The representative said the charger will be available by then.

Home Charging Station Explainer:

The Lucid Connected Home Charging Station (LCHCS) is a wall-mounted charging station that offers you much faster charging and a convenient home charging setup. Connected Home Charging Station specs • Elegant design and compact build - 5.12 in x 7.68 in x 15.35 in - 18 lb - 24 ft cable • Up to 80 miles of range per hour of charge - 2x the charge rate of the mobile charging cord - Up to 19.2kW (240VAC @ 80A) in North America • Controlled from the Lucid app - Schedule charges ahead of time - Set charge limits • Built for indoor and outdoor use - Holds up in rain, sleet, and snow - Undamaged by external ice • Hardware-ready for bi-directional charging - Vehicle and charging station software will enable this when available • Widescale compatibility with any EV - Utilizes the J1772 charging standard like most other automakers Any questions? Please reach out directly to your Sales or Delivery Advisor. You can always contact Lucid support
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Was there any information on how to set up the wiring in advance for the bidirectional charging? And did they say how much it will cost? That would be the only reason I would get this charging station. I have a ChargePoint Flex which will deliver 9.6 kW (240v @ 40a) the way it is currently configured with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. That will be enough to add 50% charge to the battery in the 6h super-off peak session so I can go from 20% to 70% easily.
 
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Was there any information on how to set up the wiring in advance for the bidirectional charging? And did they say how much it will cost? That would be the only reason I would get this charging station. I have a ChargePoint Flex which will deliver 9.6 kW (240v @ 40a) the way it is currently configured with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. That will be enough to add 50% charge to the battery in the 6h super-off peak session so I can go from 20% to 70% easily.
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No further information on price or bidirectional charging set-up. I currently have a tesla V3 home charger which does I think 15 kW at 48a. My Lucid rep says there are problems using the Tesla charger with an adapter so I will be switching. Pretty impressive if the Lucid charger can do 80 miles/hr on an 80a circuit. I only get 40 mi/hr with my Tesla charger. The bidirectional component sounds like it could involve additional wiring. I have an automatic transfer switch for my generator, I'm curious if it would need to be wired thru that.
 
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Was there any information stating whether it could be mounted on ceiling?
 
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No further information on price or bidirectional charging set-up. I currently have a tesla V3 home charger which does I think 15 kW at 48a. My Lucid rep says there are problems using the Tesla charger with an adapter so I will be switching. Pretty impressive if the Lucid charger can do 80 miles/hr on an 80a circuit. I only get 40 mi/hr with my Tesla charger. The bidirectional component sounds like it could involve additional wiring. I have an automatic transfer switch for my generator, I'm curious if it would need to be wired thru that.
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15kW would require 60A charger on a 80A circuit. 48A will only give you 11.5 kW and would have to be on a 60A circuit The Lucid 80A 19.6kW charger must be on a 100A circuit. EV charging is considered a continuous use application so the circuit it is on has to be de-rated by 20%.
 
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15kW would require 60A charger on a 80A circuit. 48A will only give you 11.5 kW and would have to be on a 60A circuit The Lucid 80A 19.6kW charger must be on a 100A circuit. EV charging is considered a continuous use application so the circuit it is on has to be de-rated by 20%.
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Yes, you would need a 100 amp circuit to maximize the Lucid Air charging or do the bidirectional capabilities. Your draw is always no more than 80 % of the circuit wiring.

As for ceiling mount, I gues you could do it, but the cord is going to be dangling from the unit. On my ChargePoint Flex, you would need to place the cord back on the charger unit which could not be done on a ceiling mount. It would be best to install a unit on the front center for use with 2 EVs or place one charger station unit on both the left and right walls. One consideration is where the vehicle plugs are located. some EV makers are putting them in the rear which is a legacy to the ICE vehicles. One would have to place the charging stations at the rear of the garage and would be difficult to use one charger station unit to service two vehicles. Makes more sense to have the vehicle plug connectors in the front like the Leaf or on one front side as in the Lucid.
 
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Yes, you would need a 100 amp circuit to maximize the Lucid Air charging or do the bidirectional capabilities. Your draw is always no more than 80 % of the circuit wiring.

As for ceiling mount, I gues you could do it, but the cord is going to be dangling from the unit. On my ChargePoint Flex, you would need to place the cord back on the charger unit which could not be done on a ceiling mount. It would be best to install a unit on the front center for use with 2 EVs or place one charger station unit on both the left and right walls. One consideration is where the vehicle plugs are located. some EV makers are putting them in the rear which is a legacy to the ICE vehicles. One would have to place the charging stations at the rear of the garage and would be difficult to use one charger station unit to service two vehicles. Makes more sense to have the vehicle plug connectors in the front like the Leaf or on one front side as in the Lucid.
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Due to where the door to the yard is located placing on the wall is twice as far and the wire would still have to cross the ceiling. Wife hasn't chosen an EV yet so anything with port on the right side of her car the cable may not reach from the front. It will have to be biased towards the front of the Air since it will be parked on the left with both driving in. Each car has its own garage door so a little more separated than if they shared a door

I'll reach out to LUCID to see if their unit requires the cable to be plugged back in with not in use. If I weren't trying to use the bi-directional feature, I'd just put in two chargers and call it a day. I'm guessing the transfer switch won't handle two units???

I suppose also if she gets something with it on the right it's the perfect solution. Just switch sides. Now which EV is that?
 
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