Thanks for sharing and will post this on twitter as well. Thanks.Was able to get the car plugged in at a 150kwh station tonight.
Started at 14% SOC ended at 80% SOC
Started at 73 miles ended at 418 miles
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Will do! Thanks much! Here is what I posted.Ahh I have a bunch of other pics posted on the other forum if you wanted to tweet those out as well
That is my reading as well.This implies that it would take 133 kWh to fill the usable portion of the battery. There will, of course, be some charging losses, but unless Lucid has abnormally high charging losses, it does suggest that 118 kWh is the user-accessible capacity of the pack, not its total capacity.
Since I put up that post Tom Moloughney of "InsideEVs" has written that Lucid told him that the 118-kWh pack has no buffers, meaning the entire capacity of the pack is accessible to users.That is my reading as well.
Maybe @Hydbob can answer but it seems like it's always on 80%. Maybe it defaults and you have to change it on purpose during a charge. Could there also be other things at play? Knowing you have the range you don't habitually charge it every day? We don't normally fill up our tanks with gas daily to keep it on "F."Since I put up that post Tom Moloughney of "InsideEVs" has written that Lucid told him that the 118-kWh pack has no buffers, meaning the entire capacity of the pack is accessible to users.
It's not clear whether the Samsung cells used in the Dream are more resistant to damage from full charging and discharging, or whether Lucid is putting an additional burden on owners to protect the battery pack in order to maximize the range claims.
Just as with our Tesla, Lucid recommends keeping the car plugged in whenever possible when parked. It's not about keeping the battery topped off. The reason is that if the ambient temperature moves outside of the optimal range, the car will activate battery heating or cooling to keep the batteries property conditioned, and it's better to do that off line power than battery power.Knowing you have the range you don't habitually charge it every day? We don't normally fill up our tanks with gas daily to keep it on "F."
I'm a bit confused. If the car has phantom drain, why would that militate against plugging it in? The drain, which you're going to get plugged in or not, would just be replenished by the line connection. Is it about peak/off-peak electricity rates?Yea, the ideal would be to keep it plugged in, however, with the drain and not being able to schedule right now, I can't keep it plugged in otherwise it would drain during the day wasting the charge to only replenish it at night.
I understand why not being able to schedule charging for off-peak rates is a problem that I can't imagine Lucid won't soon address. I don't, however, understand what you mean by draining the battery for no reason. Keeping the car plugged in should not cause a battery drain. In fact, it should prevent a battery drain when the battery heating or cooling is turned on to keep the battery within optimal temperature range, as the heating or cooling will run off the power line.Yep. If we all had electricity rates like you have in Florida it would it wouldn't be a problem. But there is also the factor that you are just draining the battery for no reason, seems like a waste of electricity
What I've found from technical articles on the internet is that it's best to keep EVs plugged in when not in use, just as most manufacturers recommend. Battery degradation comes from dendrite formation, and the two biggest contributors to dendrite formation are overcharging and fast charging. Setting the battery charge limit at 80% as Lucid recommends for daily use addresses the overcharging risk to the battery. Keeping the car plugged in means that the car will be kept up to the 80% limit using a trickle charge, which is the "kindest" charge you can give a Li-Ion battery. Waiting for the battery to run down to 20% before recharging the car means that more of the charging is done at faster rates, which increases dendrite formation. Remember that the charge curve of every EV is designed to charge faster the lower the starting point from which you charge. Recharging even after your 44-mile commute means more of the battery recharging falls within the trickle charge. It also means that your battery is not drawn down when the heating or cooling system activates while the car is parked, as those systems will run off of your power line instead of the power, thus reducing the amount of recharging to which the battery is subjected.I would want car to only charge if it drops to a low point not maintain 80%. Which is better for battery? Everyone's situation is different, I guess in Florida one needs to be ready to flee the state in a moment's notice.
Wow. Bizarre. Seems that a major software fix is due.In my home charging test, when I plugged the car in to charge, it was 3pm. I had scheduled my Chargepoint to start charging at 10pm since that's when my rates were lowest. In the 7 hours the car was plugged in, it had lost 3% of it's SOC because it had the fans running expecting a charge to start just due to the plug being plugged in. This is what I'm referencing in terms of "wasted energy" because it definitely does not lose 3% SOC just sitting there when it's locked.