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Just brought home the baby from the Beverly Hills Delivery Event.

I'm sure we will see some IG/Twitter responses from this event, but it was only for 2 vehicle deliveries. After signing some paperwork, our wonderful delivery-day-concierge walked us through pretty much every feature available at the time of delivery.

Just a couple quick notes on a few items with the vehicle.

There were 2 blemishes in the finish, 1 was on the aluminum finish for the top of the car and another was on the rear spoiler. Both will be taken care of in the future, but if it were not for our concierge pointing it out, I probably would have not noticed for a VERY LONG time. Other than that, car was immaculate, inside and out. All parts were there, including all the USB charging ports.

In the pictures below, important point was being able to fit 3 car seats across the back row. Success! The only other car I've been able to do this in was my Honda Odyssey, not in our Porsche Cayene, S55 AMG, or 740 Li, so interior space is amazing.

I took a quick picture of charging, this was plugged into my Chargepoint Home Flex on a 60 amp breaker. The Chargepoint can only support 50 amp charging. At the time, the car was at 83% SOC so take the charge speed as you will. The purple/reddish dots underneath the screen is the facial recognition camera.

When you set up your driver profile, you can have facial recognition saved to your driver profile and automatically adjust when you get in to you preferred settings for seat position, steering wheel, and mirrors (haven't tested anything past that yet).

With regards to the old video of Kyle and Tom trying to trigger the driver warning system, it seemed to only trigger AFTER I had set up a driving profile WITH facial recognition. Before that, I drove the car home with no profile setup and it never once warned me on the drive home. AFTER I set up my profile, it would give me an audible ding and visual warning on the front screen whenever I would turn away for more than a second or two.

I did not have a change to test any DreamDrive settings or functionality yet. I tried testing the auto-park in an empty parking lot, but the lines were faded and it did not pick them up well enough to pull into a space. Unsure if you need clear lines or actual cars in order to trigger that function. Will be testing that in the future.

Driving modes: Smooth, Swift, Sprint

Smooth and Swift are close, but subtle difference between the 2. Swift gives a better throttle response and stiffer suspension.

Sprint, obviously, gives the best throttle response, acceleration, and the stiffest suspension. I wish I could drive in that mode all the time, however, the heat pump which is activated to draw heat from the batteries is quite loud and would get tiring after a while, though, I would never foresee myself driving in sprint mode for any sort of distance driving.

NVH: I was able to both drive and sit in the back on our way back home and the NVH is more noticeable in the rear seats, however, coming from ICE vehicles, I don't find it any louder, in fact, it was quieter in the rear than it was in our Cayenne S. I am not missing the air suspension in any way, which we had on the Porsche.

We also had the pleasure of speaking with Derek Jenkins during our delivery event and he was super accommodating and great to speak with answering all our questions. He did tell us that if you did drive through standing water, up to 18" would be no issue.


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Just brought home the baby from the Beverly Hills Delivery Event.

I'm sure we will see some IG/Twitter responses from this event, but it was only for 2 vehicle deliveries. After signing some paperwork, our wonderful delivery-day-concierge walked us through pretty much every feature available at the time of delivery.

Just a couple quick notes on a few items with the vehicle.

There were 2 blemishes in the finish, 1 was on the aluminum finish for the top of the car and another was on the rear spoiler. Both will be taken care of in the future, but if it were not for our concierge pointing it out, I probably would have not noticed for a VERY LONG time. Other than that, car was immaculate, inside and out. All parts were there, including all the USB charging ports.

In the pictures below, important point was being able to fit 3 car seats across the back row. Success! The only other car I've been able to do this in was my Honda Odyssey, not in our Porsche Cayene, S55 AMG, or 740 Li, so interior space is amazing.

I took a quick picture of charging, this was plugged into my Chargepoint Home Flex on a 60 amp breaker. The Chargepoint can only support 50 amp charging. At the time, the car was at 83% SOC so take the charge speed as you will. The purple/reddish dots underneath the screen is the facial recognition camera.

When you set up your driver profile, you can have facial recognition saved to your driver profile and automatically adjust when you get in to you preferred settings for seat position, steering wheel, and mirrors (haven't tested anything past that yet).

With regards to the old video of Kyle and Tom trying to trigger the driver warning system, it seemed to only trigger AFTER I had set up a driving profile WITH facial recognition. Before that, I drove the car home with no profile setup and it never once warned me on the drive home. AFTER I set up my profile, it would give me an audible ding and visual warning on the front screen whenever I would turn away for more than a second or two.

I did not have a change to test any DreamDrive settings or functionality yet. I tried testing the auto-park in an empty parking lot, but the lines were faded and it did not pick them up well enough to pull into a space. Unsure if you need clear lines or actual cars in order to trigger that function. Will be testing that in the future.

Driving modes: Smooth, Swift, Sprint

Smooth and Swift are close, but subtle difference between the 2. Swift gives a better throttle response and stiffer suspension.

Sprint, obviously, gives the best throttle response, acceleration, and the stiffest suspension. I wish I could drive in that mode all the time, however, the heat pump which is activated to draw heat from the batteries is quite loud and would get tiring after a while, though, I would never foresee myself driving in sprint mode for any sort of distance driving.

NVH: I was able to both drive and sit in the back on our way back home and the NVH is more noticeable in the rear seats, however, coming from ICE vehicles, I don't find it any louder, in fact, it was quieter in the rear than it was in our Cayenne S. I am not missing the air suspension in any way, which we had on the Porsche.

We also had the pleasure of speaking with Derek Jenkins during our delivery event and he was super accommodating and great to speak with answering all our questions. He did tell us that if you did drive through standing water, up to 18" would be no issue.


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Awesome looking car and congrats! Did you have to sign and NDA/Media waiver of some sort?
 

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There were 2 blemishes in the finish, 1 was on the aluminum finish for the top of the car and another was on the rear spoiler.
Did you get the impression the car left the factory with these blemishes or might they have occurred in transit? And how long do you think it will be before Lucid tackles them? Is there any chance they would resolve with a light polishing? (I ask the last two questions because I want to get my car Opti-Coated before putting it on the road, and I would hate to have to hold off until paint blemishes were corrected by Lucid.)


At the time, the car was at 83% SOC so take the charge speed as you will.
Did Lucid make any recommendations about where to set the upper charge limit for daily use instead of when beginning a long trip?


Sprint, obviously, gives the best throttle response, acceleration, and the stiffest suspension. I wish I could drive in that mode all the time, however, the heat pump which is activated to draw heat from the batteries is quite loud and would get tiring after a while, though, I would never foresee myself driving in sprint mode for any sort of distance driving.
Was the heat pump running only during or immediately after aggressive driving, or does it run the whole time the car is in Sprint mode? Do you have any idea whether leaving the car in Sprint mode will drain the battery faster than the other two modes when driven equally sedately? (I keep our Tesla in "Plaid" mode all the time just to have access to power for a quick punch when traffic conditions allow, but spend the vast majority of my time driving with traffic flow. I'm wondering if it's practical to do the same with the Air.)
 

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Did you get the impression the car left the factory with these blemishes or might they have occurred in transit? And how long do you think it will be before Lucid tackles them? Is there any chance they would resolve with a light polishing? (I ask the last two questions because I want to get my car Opti-Coated before putting it on the road, and I would hate to have to hold off until paint blemishes were corrected by Lucid.)

The blemishes both appear to be there from the factory as they were noticed by the detailers and pointed out to me by the delivery-day-concierge. They did not give a timeline as to repairs, but I was told that the parts had already been ordered for the repair. I'm in the same boat as you and will just wrap the front and do my tinting while waiting for those repairs to be done. They were very very minor, and like I said before, I probably would not have noticed for weeks.


Did Lucid make any recommendations about where to set the upper charge limit for daily use instead of when beginning a long trip?

It was suggested, just like Tesla, to only charge it around 80% for daily usage. Interestingly, you cannot adjust the charge % if the battery is charged up higher than that %. I will have to adjust it after I get it under 70%.



Was the heat pump running only during or immediately after aggressive driving, or does it run the whole time the car is in Sprint mode? Do you have any idea whether leaving the car in Sprint mode will drain the battery faster than the other two modes when driven equally sedately? (I keep our Tesla in "Plaid" mode all the time just to have access to power for a quick punch when traffic conditions allow, but spend the vast majority of my time driving with traffic flow. I'm wondering if it's practical to do the same with the Air.)


The heat pump was running during the whole time the car was in Sprint mode. When you engage Sprint mode, it takes about 30 seconds to start hearing the heat pump at full go. It was on for the whole 5 minutes I was driving in Sprint mode, so it's possible it could "idle" but I did not notice it during my brief stint. Will test that more next time I'm on the road. I drove back in traffic in smooth then swift mode. My preference was swift for a little better throttle response, but I could never foresee where I would need Sprint for that quick punch. The car was punchy enough in Swift.
 

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Amazing news!!! Congrats, this day has been a long time coming! I gotta say, anxiously awaiting the tests for the range and charging and their software including DreamDrive as we see more deliveries.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions, Hydbob. Your understanding of the features and your ability to analyze what's going on with the car is very helpful to those of us trying to get as far up the learning curve as we can before our cars arrive.
 

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It was suggested, just like Tesla, to only charge it around 80% for daily usage. Interestingly, you cannot adjust the charge % if the battery is charged up higher than that %. I will have to adjust it after I get it under 70%.
another question for you now that you have the car. I know the battery is listed as 118kw for the Dream. Is that usable battery or total capacity? If total capacity, what is the usable? If usable capacity, what is the total battery size?
 

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I wish I knew how to access that technical data from the car...unfortunately all I have access to is to see range or percentage. I was surprised to see however, that when I picked the car up, it was fully charge and showed 513 miles of range.
 

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I wish I knew how to access that technical data from the car...unfortunately all I have access to is to see range or percentage. I was surprised to see however, that when I picked the car up, it was fully charge and showed 513 miles of range.
I think it’s like tesla. They state the EPA at a full charge not the range you’re actually going to get. A lot of people on Teslas switch to % left in battery for a better guesstimate
 

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So I've had a bit more time with the car and have some other tidbits to share...

1) The 21" Dream wheels have aero covers which can be removed. After finding that out, I am looking into getting my calipers painted.

2) The UI takes some time to boot up entering the car. Once you open the door and get in, you can drive within about 5 seconds but the UI will not have finished loading yet so no cameras, no hold assist, no parking sensors, nothing computer related will be working yet until it finishes loading.

3) Facial recognition among the 4 users I programmed in worked well to adjust our seats, mirrors, and steering wheel. I'd like to see or maybe find the setting where we can save our driving preference as well (drive mode, hold assist, creep, and regen mode).

4) Homelink was easy to setup pretty standard.

5) DreamDrive has many options disabled currently. I was told that roght know the only functions I could access were lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control.

6) Setting up a dashcam right now is proving to be an interesting puzzle considering the 12v plug is in the trunk. I ordered one to see how routing wires work and will report back after I give it a go.

7) Phone key and key fob work well. Car will automatically start up and unlock about 10 feet away and will also lock automatically when you get about 10 feet away. I hope in the future the car will have an option to automatically close all windows upon lock.

8) Alexa works albeit slightly slow. Syncing the Lucid app to my Google Home was easy but I have only been able to ask Google once about the status of my car and have it work. Other times the Lucid AI states she cannot get that information for me. The Lucid AI voice is superior to Google Homr and I wish I could change all my AI voices to hers.

9) One the Lucid provided home charger, with the Nema 14-50 plug I was getting 35mi/hr at 78% SOC. With the standard 110 plug I was getting 1mi/hr.

10) I am able to fit a set of 7 year old twins into the frunk with no issue.
 

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2) The UI takes some time to boot up entering the car. Once you open the door and get in, you can drive within about 5 seconds but the UI will not have finished loading yet so no cameras, no hold assist, no parking sensors, nothing computer related will be working yet until it finishes loading.
This happened sometimes in our 2015 Tesla from the time we bought it and still happened after the MCU was replaced with a newer unit. To my surprise, it still happens sometimes in our new Model S Plaid, leaving us sitting sometimes for 30 seconds or more while the systems come up. Sometimes when we put the car in gear, a message comes up that driver assist and accident avoidance features are not available. Once we get that message, it stays on until we exit the car. When we get back in the car on days it's doing that, sometimes the message will have disappeared, and sometimes it doesn't. This has been happening with our Teslas for six years and was not fixed with the updated 2022 models.


6) Setting up a dashcam right now is proving to be an interesting puzzle considering the 12v plug is in the trunk.
Are you sure the Lucid cameras don't serve as a dashcam? Our Model S Plaid came with a USB stick plugged into the glovebox that records forward-facing camera footage on a continuous basis. When full, the stick starts recording over previous footage, but you can hit a save button that permanently saves the ten preceding minutes.


7) Phone key and key fob work well. Car will automatically start up and unlock about 10 feet away and will also lock automatically when you get about 10 feet away.
Our Model S Plaid has three ways to operate the car: card, phone key, and key fob. The last two are programmed by placing the card on the phone charger pad. However, it's all hit and miss. We both have our phones and key fobs programmed to operate the car. I prefer using the key fob, and about a third of the time it won't start the car. And the car won't default to my keyed phone, which I'm also carrying. I know the car is reading the fob or the phone, as the doors unlock and the handles extend as I approach, and the charging cable releases. But then I get into the car and get a message that the card is required to start the car, so I have to dig it out of my wallet and rub it over the phone charger pad. The car will go several days without the problem, and then there'll be a day running errands when I have to go through this crap every time I get into the car. It really makes me miss the old "key in the ignition" days.

I hope Lucid can do a better job than Tesla -- which bills itself as a "software company at heart" -- of rooting these kind of bugs out of their software systems.


10) I am able to fit a set of 7 year old twins into the frunk with no issue.
Do you think they'll still fit when they're 15 and you're really gonna want this feature?
 

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This happened sometimes in our 2015 Tesla from the time we bought it and still happened after the MCU was replaced with a newer unit. To my surprise, it still happens sometimes in our new Model S Plaid, leaving us sitting sometimes for 30 seconds or more while the systems come up. Sometimes when we put the car in gear, a message comes up that driver assist and accident avoidance features are not available. Once we get that message, it stays on until we exit the car. When we get back in the car on days it's doing that, sometimes the message will have disappeared, and sometimes it doesn't. This has been happening with our Teslas for six years and was not fixed with the updated 2022 models.

Will have to test this more, when I noticed this happening it was a situation which probably is a rare occurrence. I just grabbed the fob and got into the car and backed it out to setup homelink. But I did not get any message because it hadn't finished loading yet, not sure if one is needed other than a CYA, because it's obvious the software hasn't loaded yet.

Are you sure the Lucid cameras don't serve as a dashcam? Our Model S Plaid came with a USB stick plugged into the glovebox that records forward-facing camera footage on a continuous basis. When full, the stick starts recording over previous footage, but you can hit a save button that permanently saves the ten preceding minutes.

The cameras right now do not serve as a dashcam. The ability to do so is currently being worked on but I was told would not be available this year as it was a feature they are aware of but production was the top priority. Of course, I mentioned the dashcam mode and Sentry mode of the Tesla, but this was the response given.


Our Model S Plaid has three ways to operate the car: card, phone key, and key fob. The last two are programmed by placing the card on the phone charger pad. However, it's all hit and miss. We both have our phones and key fobs programmed to operate the car. I prefer using the key fob, and about a third of the time it won't start the car. And the car won't default to my keyed phone, which I'm also carrying. I know the car is reading the fob or the phone, as the doors unlock and the handles extend as I approach, and the charging cable releases. But then I get into the car and get a message that the card is required to start the car, so I have to dig it out of my wallet and rub it over the phone charger pad. The car will go several days without the problem, and then there'll be a day running errands when I have to go through this crap every time I get into the car. It really makes me miss the old "key in the ignition" days.

So far, with either the key fob or my phone I have never needed the actual card to operate the car. I tested it with the card once, but after than put it away. So far so good with recognizing the key fob or phone fob

I hope Lucid can do a better job than Tesla -- which bills itself as a "software company at heart" -- of rooting these kind of bugs out of their software systems.




Do you think they'll still fit when they're 15 and you're really gonna want this feature?

By then, I will probably have to remove the cover to the frunk to use the bottom portion as well...I'll report back in 8 years
 

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One thing my Tesla experience has taught me is not to let my expectations about software features run away. It was a lesson I learned early on with Apple computers and their over-hyped but always under-performing promises of connectivity between equipment.

I fully expect my Lucid to arrive with many features not yet activated and some that will exhibit perpetual faulty performance. Ultimately, my measure of Lucid on this score will not be against perfection, but against how well other carmakers pull off similar features.

95% of the praise Tesla gets for its vaunted software excellence comes from people who obviously don't own a Tesla.

For me, a car is a driving machine first and always . . . and only incidentally a rolling computer. And it is the driving machine I am buying and on which I place my greatest expectations.
 
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