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Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago

I just got the Lucid and I am very disappointed in the software. The lane keep assistant keeps trying to push me off the road. The drivers attention is a joke if I look down it thinks I am watching the road. If I look ahead it screams to watch the road. Why is the camera behind the steering wheel not by the rear visor??
Lastly why can’t Lucid auto open and close the garage door??

I truly hope these short comings will be fixed through software updates.

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o.barbu.dds

· #21 · 4 mo ago

I have a question regarding the adaptative cruise control: My car fails to see the car in front of it quite often, maybe 5 % of the time, especially if it is stationary or detects it too late and then starts warning me to brake. Is that normal? It will NOT see a car between lanes, say 75 % in the adjacent road and 25 % in my lane.

Are other owners experiencing this? Regarding staying in the lane, it will warn me to steer manually when the curvature is a little steep.

I have been driving the Lucid for three weeks; I am getting My Tesla S out of the garage. I am used to the Lucid already, but the Tesla software is definitely 5-10 years ahead. There is no comparison. I have the navigation on autopilot, not the FSD.

I can also use autopilot on the streets, which is excellent for staying in the lane, emergency braking, etc.

Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #22 · 4 mo ago

o.barbu.dds said:
I have a question regarding the adaptative cruise control: My car fails to see the car in front of it quite often, maybe 5 % of the time, especially if it is stationary or detects it too late and then starts warning me to brake. Is that normal? It will NOT see a car between lanes, say 75 % in the adjacent road and 25 % in my lane.

Are other owners experiencing this? Regarding staying in the lane, it will warn me to steer manually when the curvature is a little steep.

I have been driving the Lucid for three weeks; I am getting My Tesla S out of the garage. I am used to the Lucid already, but the Tesla software is definitely 5-10 years ahead. There is no comparison. I have the navigation on autopilot, not the FSD.

I can also use autopilot on the streets, which is excellent for staying in the lane, emergency braking, etc.

This is normal as Ladiar is not active yet. I don’t know when these bugs will be fixed. Reviewers have reported on this. I am guessing this is why Lucid is scrambling to sell cars. They should work hard in producing a better car and software.

eric.ladror

· #23 · 4 mo ago

o.barbu.dds said:
I have a question regarding the adaptative cruise control: My car fails to see the car in front of it quite often, maybe 5 % of the time, especially if it is stationary or detects it too late and then starts warning me to brake. Is that normal? It will NOT see a car between lanes, say 75 % in the adjacent road and 25 % in my lane.

Are other owners experiencing this? Regarding staying in the lane, it will warn me to steer manually when the curvature is a little steep.

I have been driving the Lucid for three weeks; I am getting My Tesla S out of the garage. I am used to the Lucid already, but the Tesla software is definitely 5-10 years ahead. There is no comparison. I have the navigation on autopilot, not the FSD.

I can also use autopilot on the streets, which is excellent for staying in the lane, emergency braking, etc.

I think your comments indicate that you too, like many fallow owners, suffer from a lack of a reasonable Owner's Manual. The one provided with the car is unusually flimsy, so there is no way for us to discover how to use the car features.
No, my car detects cars ahead 100% of the time and shows the car ahead as a white square. I believe it does not even have a function to detects cars in the adjacent lanes and when I tested Mercedes EQS back in March it didn't either. When a car enters my lane Lucid detects it as expected. However, in all cars thatI tested (which is not very many), the Cruise control slows down too late when approaching a car at a traffic light. When I am in full panic, only then does the cruse control starts slowing. I usually cancel the cruise control when approaching the light because it is very unpleasant to let the car stop so late. However, when I tested to make sure Lucid would stop, she did (can I call Lucid "she"?) at a reasonable distance from the car ahead. But indeed it is unpleasant to let Lucid decide when to slow. I now cancel the cruise control and start slowing like a normal driver. This is something that can and should be corrected in OTA update.. I think, however, that this is a common disease, not unique to Lucid. On the other had I totally agree with you about the software, I find it outrageous that Lucid has been selling cars for 2 years and clearly their software department is not up to snuff with the rest of the car or the competition.
Concerning lane centering, I am in Illinois so highways here are very straight and Lucid has easy time keeping in the lane. You must activate the lane centering, though, which is available only on highways, and Lucid tells you something like "high assist available". On any lesser roads Lucid will Ping-Pong between the edges of the lane. Also, the eye detection is very annoying being much too sensitive. Lucid does not even let you look to the adjacent lanes for more than a second or so. It's another item to correct in the next OTA update.
I have written 12 urgent items in for Lucid to fix in the next OTA in this Forum. I hope they are reading the Forums. I will try to bring to to the attention of their engineering but I am not sure I will be successful.

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Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #24 · 4 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
I think your comments indicate that you too, like many fallow owners, suffer from a lack of a reasonable Owner's Manual. The one provided with the car is unusually flimsy, so there is no way for us to discover how to use the car features.
No, my car detects cars ahead 100% of the time and shows the car ahead as a white square. I believe it does not even have a function to detects cars in the adjacent lanes and when I tested Mercedes EQS back in March it didn't either. When a car enters my lane Lucid detects it as expected. However, in all cars thatI tested (which is not very many), the Cruise control slows down too late when approaching a car at a traffic light. When I am in full panic, only then does the cruse control starts slowing. I usually cancel the cruise control when approaching the light because it is very unpleasant to let the car stop so late. However, when I tested to make sure Lucid would stop, she did (can I call Lucid "she"?) at a reasonable distance from the car ahead. But indeed it is unpleasant to let Lucid decide when to slow. I now cancel the cruise control and start slowing like a normal driver. This is something that can and should be corrected in OTA update.. I think, however, that this is a common disease, not unique to Lucid. On the other had I totally agree with you about the software, I find it outrageous that Lucid has been selling cars for 2 years and clearly their software department is not up to snuff with the rest of the car or the competition.
Concerning lane centering, I am in Illinois so highways here are very straight and Lucid has easy time keeping in the lane. You must activate the lane centering, though, which is available only on highways, and Lucid tells you something like "high assist available". On any lesser roads Lucid will Ping-Pong between the edges of the lane. Also, the eye detection is very annoying being much too sensitive. Lucid does not even let you look to the adjacent lanes for more than a second or so. It's another item to correct in the next OTA update.
I have written 12 urgent items in for Lucid to fix in the next OTA in this Forum. I hope they are reading the Forums. I will try to bring to to the attention of their engineering but I am not sure I will be successful.

Did you drive a Tesla?? My model S always slowed down and stoped in time. The car show cars adjust to you and ahead. I know Tesla has been working in their software for ten years and it still not fool prove. It’s better than Lucid. I was told Ladar and some sensor are still not functioning. I hope all sensors plus Ladar are functioning in the next update.
Since the camera is behind the steering I can’t see how it can tell if you’re watching the road. If someone knows how it can please explain it to me.

o.barbu.dds

· #25 · 4 mo ago

I have a Tesla S and a Lucid.Tesla always detects and stops.Lucid marketing is hype and a joke

rgtichy

· #26 · 4 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
The garage door has to be linked to the car,and once it is, it works well. What annoys me, however, is that it's a soft key that is hidden behind the Parking screen that comes on as I exit the garage. So you have to exit the Parking screen, call the garage function, and only then send the signal to the garage.

This is annoying to me, too. I wish they'd make the button available for the duration of the time one is in reverse right after startup, or something. And, yeah, it needs to be available while the park-assist cameras are active.

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dbasu44

· #27 · 3 mo ago

I am new to Lucid. Got a Touring less than 2 months ago. I also drive a Tesla Model 3 (2018 version) with autopilot (keeps in lane, changes lane automatically, changes highway, takes exit, brakes on time etc., but doesn't recognize stop sign or signals) I agree with everything being said about Tesla Autopilot vs Lucid Dreamdrive Pro. Tesla was far advanced even back in 2018. Hopefully Lucid will improve quickly as a lot of issues Tesla faced and solved are widely known. They have been discussed in similar forums widely. Software development environment also has improved dramatically.

One question : I feel at times the steering becomes stiff and tries to pull me in the wrong direction. I have to correct for it. Why ?

eric.ladror

· #28 · 3 mo ago

dbasu44 said:
I am new to Lucid. Got a Touring less than 2 months ago. I also drive a Tesla Model 3 (2018 version) with autopilot (keeps in lane, changes lane automatically, changes highway, takes exit, brakes on time etc., but doesn't recognize stop sign or signals) I agree with everything being said about Tesla Autopilot vs Lucid Dreamdrive Pro. Tesla was far advanced even back in 2018. Hopefully Lucid will improve quickly as a lot of issues Tesla faced and solved are widely known. They have been discussed in similar forums widely. Software development environment also has improved dramatically.

One question : I feel at times the steering becomes stiff and tries to pull me in the wrong direction. I have to correct for it. Why ?

I never feels that it pulls in the wrong direction. It always puul back into the lane. The issue is that it is much too sensitive and stirs into the lane too soon. Also the wheel becomes too stiff when correcting. A worse issue is that the eye detection is crazy, and issues "Pay Attention" warning when I am 100% attentive. Also the "Keep hands on the wheel" warnings come for no reason.

Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #29 · 3 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
I never feels that it pulls in the wrong direction. It always puul back into the lane. The issue is that it is much too sensitive and stirs into the lane too soon. Also the wheel becomes too stiff when correcting. A worse issue is that the eye detection is crazy, and issues "Pay Attention" warning when I am 100% attentive. Also the "Keep hands on the wheel" warnings come for no reason.

The problem with eye detection is that the cabin camera is in the wrong place. It’s behind the steering wheel thus it’s useless. I wonder what idiot made that decision. It’s looking up at you thus the false message. If your have the steering wheel up to high it blocks them camera.
I have never had the hands on wheel even when my hand is off the wheel.

Fishsquire

· #30 · 3 mo ago

Tomcrown said:
Garage door works fine. What I was talking about was a feature the Tesla model S had. When your about 50 feet from the garage the car will automatically send the signal to open the garage door. The same is true when you leave it will automatically close the garage door. The only time you have to push the icon to open the garage door is when you leave.
Cars at this price point has the feature. I wish Lucid would.

I received my Lucid Touring March 3rd. I have not had any success in getting the garage door opener to link with my Chamberlain relatively new unit. I’ve followed the instructions offered in the manual. Where is the garage door opener icon ? Lucid has not responded to my requests to assist

Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #31 · 3 mo ago

Fishsquire said:
I received my Lucid Touring March 3rd. I have not had any success in getting the garage door opener to link with my Chamberlain relatively new unit. I’ve followed the instructions offered in the manual. Where is the garage door opener icon ? Lucid has not responded to my requests to assist

I have a chamberland garage door opener and it works fine. Did you first am the remote to Lucid until l headlight blinks?? Then go to the garage door opener open the hinge and push the yellow botton until it lights up then I think it’s next on the Lucid after about two minutes it states it’s done and it operates the garage door. After it’s program I have to sometimes press on the name of the opener before any respond.

Fishsquire

· #32 · 3 mo ago

Tomcrown said:
I have a chamberland garage door opener and it works fine. Did you first am the remote to Lucid until l headlight blinks?? Then go to the garage door opener open the hinge and push the yellow botton until it lights up then I think it’s next on the Lucid after about two minutes it states it’s done and it operates the garage door. After it’s program I have to sometimes press on the name of the opener before any respond.

I also have a Chamberlain. I have paired the lucid so that I now see an icon to press when I approach the garage……….it does not open automatically without pressing the icon. When I exit the garage I do not see any icon to press to close the door and it does not close automatically. Customer service advised that when exiting an icon will appear, however the cameras occupy the screens so you can’t see if there is any icon. Any thoughts?

Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #33 · 3 mo ago

Fishsquire said:
I also have a Chamberlain. I have paired the lucid so that I now see an icon to press when I approach the garage……….it does not open automatically without pressing the icon. When I exit the garage I do not see any icon to press to close the door and it does not close automatically. Customer service advised that when exiting an icon will appear, however the cameras occupy the screens so you can’t see if there is any icon. Any thoughts?

The only way it works for me is to press the x mark in order to close the parking camera. Then press home link button then the name you have for your home link.
This is the only way it works!! It’s total BS and needs a rewrite. If Lucid can’t do an auto open close then they should close the backup camera once park is pressed and automatically go into the home link menu so all you have to do is press the icon. Dream Drive does need a rewrite. Hopefully one will happen later on this year.

eric.ladror

· #34 · 3 mo ago

Fishsquire said:
I also have a Chamberlain. I have paired the lucid so that I now see an icon to press when I approach the garage……….it does not open automatically without pressing the icon. When I exit the garage I do not see any icon to press to close the door and it does not close automatically. Customer service advised that when exiting an icon will appear, however the cameras occupy the screens so you can’t see if there is any icon. Any thoughts?

One thought is to finish backing up, turn off the camera, touch the Home link icon, and close the garage door. Annoying, of course.
Hopefully Lucid will teach Alexa to close the door, or better yet, write the software to make Alexa customizable so we can teach Alexa to close the garage door and do many other things she currently doesn't do.

eric.ladror

· #35 · 3 mo ago

Tomcrown said:
The problem with eye detection is that the cabin camera is in the wrong place. It’s behind the steering wheel thus it’s useless. I wonder what idiot made that decision. It’s looking up at you thus the false message. If your have the steering wheel up to high it blocks them camera.
I have never had the hands on wheel even when my hand is off the wheel.

If the camera recognizes your profile it sees your face. I never saw that the camera did not see the driver in my car. I can't think of any better place for the camera. Lucid did many stupid things in the car, but this is not one of them.

Tomcrown

Discussion Starter · #36 · 3 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
If the camera recognizes your profile it sees your face. I never saw that the camera did not see the driver in my car. I can't think of any better place for the camera. Lucid did many stupid things in the car, but this is not one of them.

The camera see my face as the profile always activate. If I am looking straight ahead I always get that annoying message watch the road. If I look down which Is dangerous it thinks I am watching the road. Height may have something to do with it. I have the steering well set almost all the way up for comfort thus it blocks some of the camera. It’s a comprise as if it’s all the way up the steering wheel totally blocks the camera. Maybe a shorter person will get better results.

Fishsquire

· #37 · 3 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
One thought is to finish backing up, turn off the camera, touch the Home link icon, and close the garage door. Annoying, of course.
Hopefully Lucid will teach Alexa to close the door, or better yet, write the software to make Alexa customizable so we can teach Alexa to close the garage door and do many other things she currently doesn't do.

Thank you. My solution is to use the icon when opening the door and my remote when closing

eric.ladror

· #38 · 2 mo ago

Fishsquire said:
Thank you. My solution is to use the icon when opening the door and my remote when closing

Write Customer Care at Lucid. I have done that too. All we can do is hope that they take constructive criticism seriously. The more messages they get on any issue, the more they will pay attention... we hope.

SteveP

· #39 · 2 mo ago

eric.ladror said:
Write Customer Care at Lucid. I have done that too. All we can do is hope that they take constructive criticism seriously. The more messages they get on any issue, the more they will pay attention... we hope.

I’ve had the same simple request since last August when I received my GT. Early on I wrote about it and spoke with my Lucid Rep about it. I was assured the fix is in the works. When I moved from a Model S to my GT, it bugged the crap out of me 2-3 times a day when I’d leave home and have to close the garage. Finally, I gave up and have a garage door opener clipped to my visor now. Maybe one day….

BSandsMD

· #40 · 2 mo ago

o.barbu.dds said:
I have a question regarding the adaptative cruise control: My car fails to see the car in front of it quite often, maybe 5 % of the time, especially if it is stationary or detects it too late and then starts warning me to brake. Is that normal? It will NOT see a car between lanes, say 75 % in the adjacent road and 25 % in my lane.

Are other owners experiencing this? Regarding staying in the lane, it will warn me to steer manually when the curvature is a little steep.

I have been driving the Lucid for three weeks; I am getting My Tesla S out of the garage. I am used to the Lucid already, but the Tesla software is definitely 5-10 years ahead. There is no comparison. I have the navigation on autopilot, not the FSD.

I can also use autopilot on the streets, which is excellent for staying in the lane, emergency braking, etc.

How was Tesla's auto pilot on the first vehicles produced and how long did it take to resolve the bugs in the system for comparison?

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