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slowinfastout27

Discussion Starter · Apr 21, 2022

Hi all,

I am what you could consider an early adopter of tech in general and cars in particular. I was excited when I found out about Lucid years ago, and decided to put my name up for a Dream Edition.

The car's finish, and overall quality is top notch for a first effort. Customer service is friendly and always available, but living in Florida has proven a challenge to say the least.

As an example I had to drive from Miami to Tampa, which is a 280 mile trip. I was fully charged, never entered the performance mode, was in sitting traffic for 20 minutes or so, and barely made it! Once in Tampa I looked for an Electrify America fast charger. There was one on their website, but actually there wasn't when I drove to a shady parking lot with no charger. I ended up at a GM dealer that had a 240 volt setup. The car showed an almost 14 hour charging time for a full battery. I couldn't wait that long and thus had a tow truck pick the car and send it pack to Miami.

Overall this is a pretty discouraging experience, I can't even say that I blame Lucid for it. Car is great but can't live with it in FL. Even Miami doesn't seem to have fast charging station that would enable a 80% charge in 20 minutes.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks

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JohnPaul

· #2 · Apr 21, 2022

The definition of range anxiety! Thanks for sharing, @slowinfastout27 .
I did some research a while back for my parents in Ft. Myers and couldn't help noticing the astonishing dearth of DC fast charging options on the Gulf Coast. I hope it gets addressed soon, but when my father suggested to their condo board that they install a 240V charger in the parking garage of their building he was laughed out of the room, so I'm not holding out hope that EV adoption is going to be rapid outside of the Miami-Dade area.

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steveinarizona

· #3 · Apr 22, 2022

slowinfastout27 said:
Hi all,

I am what you could consider an early adopter of tech in general and cars in particular. I was excited when I found out about Lucid years ago, and decided to put my name up for a Dream Edition.

The car's finish, and overall quality is top notch for a first effort. Customer service is friendly and always available, but living in Florida has proven a challenge to say the least.

As an example I had to drive from Miami to Tampa, which is a 280 mile trip. I was fully charged, never entered the performance mode, was in sitting traffic for 20 minutes or so, and barely made it! Once in Tampa I looked for an Electrify America fast charger. There was one on their website, but actually there wasn't when I drove to a shady parking lot with no charger. I ended up at a GM dealer that had a 240 volt setup. The car showed an almost 14 hour charging time for a full battery. I couldn't wait that long and thus had a tow truck pick the car and send it pack to Miami.

Overall this is a pretty discouraging experience, I can't even say that I blame Lucid for it. Car is great but can't live with it in FL. Even Miami doesn't seem to have fast charging station that would enable a 80% charge in 20 minutes.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks

I reserved a Pure for a couple of reasons. One is that I don't anticipate it being available until 2024 and if the charger infrastructure is not adequate by then, I can just cancel my reservation. But I intend to use EA to give me a quick boost when my batteries run down or I am on a trip but otherwise I will top off at home each night. But I anticipate that by then EA will have an ample network.

My second reason is the software. I fully expected Lucid to have difficulties with it but by 2024 I expect it will have solved these issues. If not, again, I can cancel my reservation.

As an early adopter, you will have to plan your trips very carefully.

As an aside, I have found that often the EA sites are somewhat hidden and not in an obvious location. I was early for a tee time yesterday at a golf course so I drove around the outlet stores at the adjacent mall to kill a few minutes and in the back of it I found an EA setup with no cars using it. Not the easiest place to find the units.

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thecodingart

· #4 · Apr 24, 2022

slowinfastout27 said:
Hi all,

I am what you could consider an early adopter of tech in general and cars in particular. I was excited when I found out about Lucid years ago, and decided to put my name up for a Dream Edition.

The car's finish, and overall quality is top notch for a first effort. Customer service is friendly and always available, but living in Florida has proven a challenge to say the least.

As an example I had to drive from Miami to Tampa, which is a 280 mile trip. I was fully charged, never entered the performance mode, was in sitting traffic for 20 minutes or so, and barely made it! Once in Tampa I looked for an Electrify America fast charger. There was one on their website, but actually there wasn't when I drove to a shady parking lot with no charger. I ended up at a GM dealer that had a 240 volt setup. The car showed an almost 14 hour charging time for a full battery. I couldn't wait that long and thus had a tow truck pick the car and send it pack to Miami.

Overall this is a pretty discouraging experience, I can't even say that I blame Lucid for it. Car is great but can't live with it in FL. Even Miami doesn't seem to have fast charging station that would enable a 80% charge in 20 minutes.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks

Considering I live in Orlando and consistently commute between Tampa, Miami and Daytona areas… this is sort of rubbish. I’ve commuted in a Mercedes EQS (340 range), Taycan (220 range) and Model S (180 range) on multiple occasions where range anxiety was only a reality in my 2013 Model S (sort of). There are plenty of EA stations within 20-30 minute radiuses of ALL of these areas. FL infrastructure is actually better than most states and the EA maps show this..

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evonthego

· #5 · Apr 24, 2022

thecodingart said:
Considering I live in Orlando and consistently commute between Tampa, Miami and Daytona areas… this is sort of rubbish. I’ve commuted in a Mercedes EQS (340 range), Taycan (220 range) and Model S (180 range) on multiple occasions where range anxiety was only a reality in my 2013 Model S (sort of). There are plenty of EA stations within 20-30 minute radiuses of ALL of these areas. FL infrastructure is actually better than most states and the EA maps show this..

Welcome to the forum! Which of those models you like best for long highway rides? I want to assume it will be the EQS but won't be entirely surprised if the Taycan or Model S can be just as nice.

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thecodingart

· #6 · Apr 25, 2022 (Edited)

evonthego said:
Welcome to the forum! Which of those models you like best for long highway rides? I want to assume it will be the EQS but won't be entirely surprised if the Taycan or Model S can be just as nice.

My current ranking order after driving quite a bit in each is:

Taycan
580 EQS
Tesla Model S

The Taycan is unparalleled in its ability to feel like you’re driving something magical. The EQS makes driving feel less like a chore and more like a cloud being guided on the road (it’s a comfy ride and you won’t feel much of the road), and a Tesla was just a reimagining of what a car could be. I find everything else to be an evolutionary version of what Tesla should have tried to become. The magic I felt for Tesla in the beginning is honestly gone considering the quality of the ride and car itself. My personal favorite to drive is the Taycan, it’s simply fun. The lack of ANY form of range anxiety on the EQS is pure gold though. I was realistically hitting 360 miles on a single charge. Today, I drove from Orlando to the Lucid Studio in West Palm and back without charging in the EQS… that’s something I haven’t experienced with any other car ever. I’m expecting the GT Lucid to give me that feeling with the drive of the Taycan as the perfect combination.

Also, the Taycan does have 300 charging speeds topping out at a much higher rate than either of the other cars. If you PROPERLY use the higher output stations, you will be fairly happy.

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sandvinsd

· #7 · Apr 26, 2022

The Lucid Air will give you the best range. If there is inadequate charging infrastructure, then it is the one you want

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Ev-MasterTech

· #8 · Apr 27, 2022

slowinfastout27 said:
Hi all,

I am what you could consider an early adopter of tech in general and cars in particular. I was excited when I found out about Lucid years ago, and decided to put my name up for a Dream Edition.

The car's finish, and overall quality is top notch for a first effort. Customer service is friendly and always available, but living in Florida has proven a challenge to say the least.

As an example I had to drive from Miami to Tampa, which is a 280 mile trip. I was fully charged, never entered the performance mode, was in sitting traffic for 20 minutes or so, and barely made it! Once in Tampa I looked for an Electrify America fast charger. There was one on their website, but actually there wasn't when I drove to a shady parking lot with no charger. I ended up at a GM dealer that had a 240 volt setup. The car showed an almost 14 hour charging time for a full battery. I couldn't wait that long and thus had a tow truck pick the car and send it pack to Miami.

Overall this is a pretty discouraging experience, I can't even say that I blame Lucid for it. Car is great but can't live with it in FL. Even Miami doesn't seem to have fast charging station that would enable a 80% charge in 20 minutes.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks

I agree with you when you buy anything like this you have to do your homewor. I think you go with Tesla Plaid. You can Charge anywhere you like. Also you give you est destinations from one point to another poin. some technology Lucid are nice but car need gas to go from point to anothe. Ev need charge from point to another.

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thecodingart

· #9 · Apr 27, 2022

Ev-MasterTech said:
I agree with you when you buy anything like this you have to do your homewor. I think you go with Tesla Plaid. You can Charge anywhere you like. Also you give you est destinations from one point to another poin. some technology Lucid are nice but car need gas to go from point to anothe. Ev need charge from point to another.

I thought Lucid used Heremaps which is the same tech that most other EVs use for trip planning today?

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