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Hi All,
I am seeing a potential safety issue with current design. Want to see how everyone feels.
I just got my lucid air touring and have been trying for a few days. Car drives very well and comfortable. But I noticed that this car’s creep mode is very weak. You need to apply throttle at the right pressure to stop the rolling back even in D mode. Lucid says this is their design and car has no issue. If it is on a flat surface, creep will move in the direction of the gear selected. Based on my experience, Lucid’s creep mode can’t even handle regular drive way incline or normal slope. I am definitely not talking about a big slope or off-road kind of thing. Another problem is their brake hold does not kick in unless you stop from 11-12m per hour to stop. There is no way to enable brake hold by pressing brake pedal firmly either like Tesla. In a bumper to bumper traffic scenario or a slow start on a small slope, there is no brake hold.
The other day we were at a traffic intersection waiting for a red light. The road is not perfect flat with a small incline angle. When the light turned green, we pressed throttle to release the brake hold, then car rolled backward until we pressed more on throttle. Phew! It was nerve wrecking. Based on Lucid’s current design, you need to immediately press throttle to prevent the rolling backward. I have owned Taycan and Tesla before . Their creep mode work very well and never roll back at this intersection which I travel many times in the neighbor hood.
Another scenario is stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic on highway or local. In this case,since speed is very low, brake hold will never kick in. Every time you want to move forward, you have to think how much pressure to apply on throttle and you need to switch your foot from brake pedal to throttle pedal very fast! Otherwise, car may roll back if you are on a small slope. This is definitely very stressful when the incline is larger. Tesla and my Taycan both do not roll back this bad with creep mode. Lucid insists this is their design which is different from other brands. But this design is not safe in my opinion. I would think they need to fix the creep mode to handle small incline better like drive way at home and small up and down on day to day drive. When more cars are sold and on the road, someone may potentially run into accident. Someone may argue we just need to get used to it. This may be a way. But we are buying this expensive car which should improve or be in parity with other brands in terms of safety (if not better) and driving experience. This constant pedal switch between brake and throttle is like driving a manual shift car.
what do you folks think and how do you handle this? I have seen a few posts in the past talking about this. Now, I have my car and I realized that this is a pretty concerned problem.
I am seeing a potential safety issue with current design. Want to see how everyone feels.
I just got my lucid air touring and have been trying for a few days. Car drives very well and comfortable. But I noticed that this car’s creep mode is very weak. You need to apply throttle at the right pressure to stop the rolling back even in D mode. Lucid says this is their design and car has no issue. If it is on a flat surface, creep will move in the direction of the gear selected. Based on my experience, Lucid’s creep mode can’t even handle regular drive way incline or normal slope. I am definitely not talking about a big slope or off-road kind of thing. Another problem is their brake hold does not kick in unless you stop from 11-12m per hour to stop. There is no way to enable brake hold by pressing brake pedal firmly either like Tesla. In a bumper to bumper traffic scenario or a slow start on a small slope, there is no brake hold.
The other day we were at a traffic intersection waiting for a red light. The road is not perfect flat with a small incline angle. When the light turned green, we pressed throttle to release the brake hold, then car rolled backward until we pressed more on throttle. Phew! It was nerve wrecking. Based on Lucid’s current design, you need to immediately press throttle to prevent the rolling backward. I have owned Taycan and Tesla before . Their creep mode work very well and never roll back at this intersection which I travel many times in the neighbor hood.
Another scenario is stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic on highway or local. In this case,since speed is very low, brake hold will never kick in. Every time you want to move forward, you have to think how much pressure to apply on throttle and you need to switch your foot from brake pedal to throttle pedal very fast! Otherwise, car may roll back if you are on a small slope. This is definitely very stressful when the incline is larger. Tesla and my Taycan both do not roll back this bad with creep mode. Lucid insists this is their design which is different from other brands. But this design is not safe in my opinion. I would think they need to fix the creep mode to handle small incline better like drive way at home and small up and down on day to day drive. When more cars are sold and on the road, someone may potentially run into accident. Someone may argue we just need to get used to it. This may be a way. But we are buying this expensive car which should improve or be in parity with other brands in terms of safety (if not better) and driving experience. This constant pedal switch between brake and throttle is like driving a manual shift car.
what do you folks think and how do you handle this? I have seen a few posts in the past talking about this. Now, I have my car and I realized that this is a pretty concerned problem.